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...f Ram and Tsak are extremely unclear. The commentary by Thrinlépa ([[Karma Thrinlépa]] (1456-1539) was a student of the 7th Karmapa [[Chödrak Gyatso]]) is some *Karma Thrinlépa (1456-1539, a student of the 7th Karmapa), (Wyl. ''dpal kye'i rdo rje zhes ...