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#I have looked at 4 sources (Cornu, Kapstein, Trungpa & K. Palden Sherab) and none of them have Guru Tsokye Dorje in their list... So if Tsokye Dorje is really one of the eight manifestations, this needs to be a very reliable source... Three of them have Guru Orgyen Dorje Chang instead. This could mean of course that they're all using the same traditional source.
 
#I have looked at 4 sources (Cornu, Kapstein, Trungpa & K. Palden Sherab) and none of them have Guru Tsokye Dorje in their list... So if Tsokye Dorje is really one of the eight manifestations, this needs to be a very reliable source... Three of them have Guru Orgyen Dorje Chang instead. This could mean of course that they're all using the same traditional source.
 
--[[User:Sébastien|Sébastien]] 15:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
 
--[[User:Sébastien|Sébastien]] 15:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
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#Iconographically Orgyen Dorje Chang is usually depicted with his hands crossed in front holding vajra and bell. Tsokye Dorje usually has one hand raised holding a vajra and the other holding a bell at his side. I wonder if some tangka images are mis-labelled or mis-identified as very often they make no distinction between the two.  The set of tangkas we have of the eight manifestations includes one labelled Tsokye Dorje with the above-mentioned iconography.... I hope this doesn't add to the questions ......Tsondru - 19 August

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  1. this list and the introductory paragraph needs to be referenced... where does this info come from?
  2. I have looked at 4 sources (Cornu, Kapstein, Trungpa & K. Palden Sherab) and none of them have Guru Tsokye Dorje in their list... So if Tsokye Dorje is really one of the eight manifestations, this needs to be a very reliable source... Three of them have Guru Orgyen Dorje Chang instead. This could mean of course that they're all using the same traditional source.

--Sébastien 15:07, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

  1. Iconographically Orgyen Dorje Chang is usually depicted with his hands crossed in front holding vajra and bell. Tsokye Dorje usually has one hand raised holding a vajra and the other holding a bell at his side. I wonder if some tangka images are mis-labelled or mis-identified as very often they make no distinction between the two. The set of tangkas we have of the eight manifestations includes one labelled Tsokye Dorje with the above-mentioned iconography.... I hope this doesn't add to the questions ......Tsondru - 19 August